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AleGer 13.12.2011 20:44

Panaque ID
 
Could you help to ID this small Panaque.
It came from southern Venezuela.


AsterixX 13.12.2011 20:49

Hi,

it could be L2, maybe L403 too!

Best Regards
Frank

L172 13.12.2011 20:52

Hi!

L2 is from Brazil.
Probably LDA67 Panaqolus aff. maccus

Bests,
Chris

AsterixX 13.12.2011 20:55

Hi,

it doesn't look likes for me as an maccus..

Best Regards
Frank

Fischray 13.12.2011 20:56

Hi

Das ist kein LDA67 Panaqolus aff. maccus.

Gruß Ralf

AleGer 13.12.2011 20:57

Yes, I also think about L002, L403 or Panaque sp. "Peru".

But as far I know this fish came from Southern part of Venezuela. And L002 and L403 are from Brazir, Para (too far from Venezuela).
The distribution of Panaque sp. "Peru" is closer.

AleGer 13.12.2011 20:59

It is not my fish. And the owner of this fish says that it is P.maccus. But I don't think that it could be P.maccus.

andi 13.12.2011 21:01

Hi,
i can't believe the origin.
Who says that it comes from Venezuela?
Do you have the real location, where this individuum was caught?

Until now there are no tiger plecos known from Venezuela, just from brazil and peru.

Cheers Andi

AleGer 13.12.2011 21:09

The owner of this fish is my friend from Kiev. His name Igor Sheremetyev
Here is the thread about this panaque from facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

There is written that it was exported from Colombia, but when I met and spoke to him once again about this fish he told me that it was exported from Venezuela through Colombia.

andi 13.12.2011 21:21

Hi Alex, i agree with you, that this individuum isn't a member from the panaqolus maccus group. It is a member of the tiger pleco group, but until now this group is just known from the amazon basin, and not from the orinoco basin, where the members of the panaqolus maccus group are the only known panaqolus. please check the origin. Maybe the importer or wholesaler has mixed them with some other panaqolus from another import.

Cheers Andi

bigbird 13.12.2011 21:26

maybe the fish was caught in Brasil and sent over the border for export. It does look like the L002 or L403 though. cheers jk

AleGer 13.12.2011 21:30

andi, thanks:)

I'll try to double check the info about origin. But to tell the truth it is a little bit hard to dispute about this fish with Igor. He is quite smart and quite known in fish species. But he still thinks that it is P.maccus.

Acanthicus 13.12.2011 21:33

Zitat:

Zitat von AleGer (Beitrag 210602)
But he still thinks that it is P.maccus.

Please ask him what makes him think so. It´s clearly not a Panaqolus/Panaque maccus.


cheers

andi 13.12.2011 21:33

HI Alex,
i've written him at the comment thread. Let's see what happens...

Cheers Andi

AleGer 13.12.2011 21:37

andi, thanks a lot:)

Thanks to everybody who took part in this thread.

Acanthicus, well this is I'm going to discuss with him once more:)


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